Comments on: Low-Carb, Low-Fat and High-Protein Diets Equally Useless http://summertomato.com/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless Healthy Eating Tips for Foodies Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:47:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Darya Pino http://summertomato.com/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/comment-page-1/#comment-156069 Darya Pino Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:23:28 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/#comment-156069 I've read Taubes extensively: http://summertomato.com/book-review-good-calories-bad-calories/ http://summertomato.com/book-review-why-we-get-fat-by-gary-taubes/ I’ve read Taubes extensively:

http://summertomato.com/book-review-good-calories-bad-calories/
http://summertomato.com/book-review-why-we-get-fat-by-gary-taubes/

]]> By: Elin http://summertomato.com/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/comment-page-1/#comment-156066 Elin Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:21:32 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/#comment-156066 Gary Taubes. Read. Learn. Gary Taubes. Read. Learn.

]]> By: Darya Pino http://summertomato.com/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/comment-page-1/#comment-4772 Darya Pino Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:39:35 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/#comment-4772 Actually Guy, I am a scientist and have had extensive training in statistics. I do not entirely disagree with your points, however I see no reason for you to be so impolite. I read the article again and deleted a couple sentences that in retrospect I agree over-stated some conclusions. Thank you for forcing me to revisit this topic. In the future, please take a more personable approach to comments here or they will be deleted. Disagreement is welcome on this blog, but rudeness is not. Actually Guy, I am a scientist and have had extensive training in statistics. I do not entirely disagree with your points, however I see no reason for you to be so impolite. I read the article again and deleted a couple sentences that in retrospect I agree over-stated some conclusions. Thank you for forcing me to revisit this topic.

In the future, please take a more personable approach to comments here or they will be deleted. Disagreement is welcome on this blog, but rudeness is not.

]]> By: Guy http://summertomato.com/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/comment-page-1/#comment-4771 Guy Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:44:11 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/#comment-4771 Actually, this critique was absolutely horrible. It's obvious this author has ZERO training whatsoever in statistical analysis and even skewed the results to her benefit. What was ACTUALLY found was that there is no statistical difference between the groups because of non-compliance with the regimens prescribed. Each group ended up eating approximately the same percentages of each macro-nutrient regardless of which group they were in. The end points reached were NOT statistically significant with a regard to an alpha of 0.5. Therefore, we can NOT conclude from this study that there is no difference in weight loss dependent on macro-nutrient intake. Moral of this lesson is not to believe everything that you read. Such as this article. She's pumping her own beliefs, not following the actual results of this study. Actually, this critique was absolutely horrible. It’s obvious this author has ZERO training whatsoever in statistical analysis and even skewed the results to her benefit. What was ACTUALLY found was that there is no statistical difference between the groups because of non-compliance with the regimens prescribed. Each group ended up eating approximately the same percentages of each macro-nutrient regardless of which group they were in. The end points reached were NOT statistically significant with a regard to an alpha of 0.5. Therefore, we can NOT conclude from this study that there is no difference in weight loss dependent on macro-nutrient intake.

Moral of this lesson is not to believe everything that you read. Such as this article. She’s pumping her own beliefs, not following the actual results of this study.

]]> By: Steve http://summertomato.com/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/comment-page-1/#comment-4103 Steve Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:44:24 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/#comment-4103 @ Paul G, mike is right, so long as he's in negative energy balance he can eat only mcd's and lose weight. read this for more info: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/hormonal-responses-to-a-fast-food-meal-compared-with-nutritionally-comparable-meals-of-different-composition-research-review.html My response to the whole article: you should differentiate between weight lost and fat lost. Keeping high, or at least sufficient protein(depending on activity levels etc), will spare lean body mass which then means that of the weight lost the majority will be fat rather than a mix of fat and lean mass. Also it has the greatest effect on satiation of the macronutrients so its win-win. @ Paul G, mike is right, so long as he’s in negative energy balance he can eat only mcd’s and lose weight.
read this for more info: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/hormonal-responses-to-a-fast-food-meal-compared-with-nutritionally-comparable-meals-of-different-composition-research-review.html

My response to the whole article: you should differentiate between weight lost and fat lost. Keeping high, or at least sufficient protein(depending on activity levels etc), will spare lean body mass which then means that of the weight lost the majority will be fat rather than a mix of fat and lean mass. Also it has the greatest effect on satiation of the macronutrients so its win-win.

]]> By: Paul G http://summertomato.com/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/comment-page-1/#comment-2434 Paul G Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:06:59 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/#comment-2434 Wow, dumb and dumber eh? It's simple, there are different body types, and each responds differently to carbs, fat, and protein. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a moron. Especially Mike, who said "..cool thing about a calorie restricted diet is you can eat whatever you want". OK mike, eat 2000 calories of McDonalds and let me know how that works out. If you are an endomorph, reducing carbs is a huge help (I'm speaking from experience). I was on diet and exercise for 2 months, with no loss until my friend pointed out I was eating almost entirely carbs. Switched to mostly protein and the weight melted off. For the naysayers, explain how my roomate and I (who would cook food or just buy junk food) were different sizes (I was huge, he was a stick) despite eating the same food and roughly the same portion sizes? Wow, dumb and dumber eh?

It’s simple, there are different body types, and each responds differently to carbs, fat, and protein. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a moron.

Especially Mike, who said “..cool thing about a calorie restricted diet is you can eat whatever you want”. OK mike, eat 2000 calories of McDonalds and let me know how that works out.

If you are an endomorph, reducing carbs is a huge help (I’m speaking from experience). I was on diet and exercise for 2 months, with no loss until my friend pointed out I was eating almost entirely carbs. Switched to mostly protein and the weight melted off.

For the naysayers, explain how my roomate and I (who would cook food or just buy junk food) were different sizes (I was huge, he was a stick) despite eating the same food and roughly the same portion sizes?

]]> By: Matt Shook http://summertomato.com/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/comment-page-1/#comment-988 Matt Shook Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:18:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/#comment-988 The best diet is no diet at all... ;)<br/><br/>I believe a lot people end up in a vicious cycle...they over-eat and then get depressed (because they are out of shape), or they over-eat because they are already depressed (from some other factor). I'm trying to figure out how to help someone break out of this...it can be very difficult. The best diet is no diet at all… ;)

I believe a lot people end up in a vicious cycle…they over-eat and then get depressed (because they are out of shape), or they over-eat because they are already depressed (from some other factor). I’m trying to figure out how to help someone break out of this…it can be very difficult.

]]> By: Make Money Online http://summertomato.com/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/comment-page-1/#comment-981 Make Money Online Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:50:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/#comment-981 Are you ready to give up diets and focus on health?<br/><br/>Well not yet, but I guess i need to get healthy and be fit. Sigh all the good things in life come at a cost. Are you ready to give up diets and focus on health?

Well not yet, but I guess i need to get healthy and be fit. Sigh all the good things in life come at a cost.

]]> By: Mike of Tustin http://summertomato.com/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/comment-page-1/#comment-979 Mike of Tustin Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:09:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/#comment-979 For at least 30 years I have told anyone who cared to listen that calories are the only things that count in weight loss/gain. The response has always been carbohydrates, protein, fat, blah, blah, blah. The cool thing about a calorie restricted diet is that you can eat whatever you want as long as you stay below your calorie limit. That includes my favorite food, M&Ms. I once lost weight on a pure CornNuts diet. I love those things. For at least 30 years I have told anyone who cared to listen that calories are the only things that count in weight loss/gain. The response has always been carbohydrates, protein, fat, blah, blah, blah. The cool thing about a calorie restricted diet is that you can eat whatever you want as long as you stay below your calorie limit. That includes my favorite food, M&Ms. I once lost weight on a pure CornNuts diet. I love those things.

]]> By: Steve Parker, M.D. http://summertomato.com/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/comment-page-1/#comment-978 Steve Parker, M.D. Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:40:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/low-carb-low-fat-and-high-protein-diets-equally-useless/#comment-978 Great analysis, Darya. <br/><br/>The Atkins advocates will not accept the results of this study, saying that it did not include a true Atkins program. <br/><br/>But the studied diets varied from 35 to 65% of total calories form carbohydrates. That's a pretty big difference.<br/><br/>So why didn't the researchers include a radically low carb option such as Atkins Phase 1, or even later phases? A quote from the article:<br/><br/>"In addition, trials of low-carbohydrate diets have reported a very low incidence of urinary ketosis after 6 months, suggesting that in most overweight people, it is futile to sustain a low intake of carbohydrates."<br/><br/>-Steve Great analysis, Darya.

The Atkins advocates will not accept the results of this study, saying that it did not include a true Atkins program.

But the studied diets varied from 35 to 65% of total calories form carbohydrates. That’s a pretty big difference.

So why didn’t the researchers include a radically low carb option such as Atkins Phase 1, or even later phases? A quote from the article:

“In addition, trials of low-carbohydrate diets have reported a very low incidence of urinary ketosis after 6 months, suggesting that in most overweight people, it is futile to sustain a low intake of carbohydrates.”

-Steve

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