Comments on: FAIL: The Wild Radish Rapini Challenge http://summertomato.com/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/ Healthy Eating Tips for Foodies Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:42:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: NB http://summertomato.com/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1100 NB Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:42:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/#comment-1100 OK anon#1, I went out and bought some local wild honey this weekend (they tried to sell me some of their pollen too....snakeoil?). Looking forward to seeing some improvements in my respiratory function.....I can count on it, right? OK anon#1, I went out and bought some local wild honey this weekend (they tried to sell me some of their pollen too….snakeoil?). Looking forward to seeing some improvements in my respiratory function…..I can count on it, right?

]]> By: Car Blog http://summertomato.com/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1086 Car Blog Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:19:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/#comment-1086 Don't wanna sound stupid, but I have noticed Radish gives you a farting spree. Don’t wanna sound stupid, but I have noticed Radish gives you a farting spree.

]]> By: Darya Pino http://summertomato.com/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1080 Darya Pino Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:43:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/#comment-1080 <b>@all <br/><br/>Great discussion!! I heart you guys!!!<br/><br/>-----<br/>@Anon(wiki)<br/><br/>That is an amazing point, and really unfortunate too. But I must say I am not surprised, cheap honey has to come from somewhere.<br/><br/>-----<br/>@Matt<br/><br/>For the record, I really could never justify intentionally adding extra sugar to my breakfast (Dorset rocks!!). Whatever small benefit may be gleaned from having some raw honey in the diet needs to be kept in perspective of total health.<br/><br/>To date, the best known and most effective method of fighting aging and disease is through calorie restriction. Antioxidants wish they had the data calorie restriction has.<br/><br/>It has been shown repeatedly that animals from yeast to worms to flies to primates can at least double their lifespan by ingesting 30-50% fewer calories. Life extension has not been proven conclusively in humans yet, but convincing data in monkeys is emerging (these are long studies!).<br/><br/>Since I do not have allergies or notable skin wounds (I did get a paper cut yesterday ;), I can only see honey as a potentially better dessert, not something to go out of my way to add to my diet. I have no objection whatsoever to anyone who wants to eat raw honey, I am just reporting the data and my personal preference.<br/><br/>That being said, I have a jar now that I am really enjoying. It is delicious! Had some for dessert last night :)<br/><br/>I read about the solid honey. I guess that raw honey is collected in a liquid form but it naturally crystallizes with time if the insect had a particular diet. Personally I like it kind of solid. It liquefies almost instantly upon touching warm bread, but is still easily spreadable. Yummy :)<br/><br/>And thanks for appreciating my twisted humor, not everyone gets my movie quotes (Facebook folks always drop the ball). <br/><br/>;)<br/><br/>-----<br/>@Anon(non-Alba)<br/><br/>You should not need to register to make a screen name more interesting than Anon(non-Alba). Just select the Name/URL option and write whatever name you want to be. Honeypie might be a good one for you ;)<br/><br/>-----<br/>@Michelle @Anon(8pm)<br/><br/>Thank you!! For me addressing failures is a very important step for newbie cooks to see. Not everything turns out perfect, but that burrito will always be there if things don't work out.<br/><br/>I also think it is important to explain the thought process that goes into making decisions about a meal.<br/><br/>You do not have to know what you're doing to make a dish. This is the 21st century! We have the internet!! <br/><br/>As this recipe demonstrates, the most important thing is starting with good ingredients, then it is hard to mess up too bad. This meal was a little sweeter than I prefer, but it was still better than most things I could have bought for <$10.<br/><br/><br/>-----<br/><br/>I just want to reiterate that this has been an awesome conversation and I think anyone who reads it will benefit. You guys rock my world.<br/><br/>xoxoxo<br/>darya<br/><br/></b> @all

Great discussion!! I heart you guys!!!

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@Anon(wiki)

That is an amazing point, and really unfortunate too. But I must say I am not surprised, cheap honey has to come from somewhere.

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@Matt

For the record, I really could never justify intentionally adding extra sugar to my breakfast (Dorset rocks!!). Whatever small benefit may be gleaned from having some raw honey in the diet needs to be kept in perspective of total health.

To date, the best known and most effective method of fighting aging and disease is through calorie restriction. Antioxidants wish they had the data calorie restriction has.

It has been shown repeatedly that animals from yeast to worms to flies to primates can at least double their lifespan by ingesting 30-50% fewer calories. Life extension has not been proven conclusively in humans yet, but convincing data in monkeys is emerging (these are long studies!).

Since I do not have allergies or notable skin wounds (I did get a paper cut yesterday ;) , I can only see honey as a potentially better dessert, not something to go out of my way to add to my diet. I have no objection whatsoever to anyone who wants to eat raw honey, I am just reporting the data and my personal preference.

That being said, I have a jar now that I am really enjoying. It is delicious! Had some for dessert last night :)

I read about the solid honey. I guess that raw honey is collected in a liquid form but it naturally crystallizes with time if the insect had a particular diet. Personally I like it kind of solid. It liquefies almost instantly upon touching warm bread, but is still easily spreadable. Yummy :)

And thanks for appreciating my twisted humor, not everyone gets my movie quotes (Facebook folks always drop the ball).

;)

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@Anon(non-Alba)

You should not need to register to make a screen name more interesting than Anon(non-Alba). Just select the Name/URL option and write whatever name you want to be. Honeypie might be a good one for you ;)

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@Michelle @Anon(8pm)

Thank you!! For me addressing failures is a very important step for newbie cooks to see. Not everything turns out perfect, but that burrito will always be there if things don't work out.

I also think it is important to explain the thought process that goes into making decisions about a meal.

You do not have to know what you're doing to make a dish. This is the 21st century! We have the internet!!

As this recipe demonstrates, the most important thing is starting with good ingredients, then it is hard to mess up too bad. This meal was a little sweeter than I prefer, but it was still better than most things I could have bought for <$10.

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I just want to reiterate that this has been an awesome conversation and I think anyone who reads it will benefit. You guys rock my world.

xoxoxo
darya

]]> By: Anonymous http://summertomato.com/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1078 Anonymous Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:00:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/#comment-1078 I love that you made a long and complete post about a failed recipe; most the time I only ever read about successes, but I think there is at least as much to learn from the failed recipe as there is the successful one. I love that you made a long and complete post about a failed recipe; most the time I only ever read about successes, but I think there is at least as much to learn from the failed recipe as there is the successful one.

]]> By: Matt Shook http://summertomato.com/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1076 Matt Shook Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:53:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/#comment-1076 @All<br/><br/>Wow, who would have thought "honey" would have stirred the pot?!<br/><br/>Most açaí products are crap, but there are a few that take precautions to ensure the nutritional level of the palm fruit is maintained. Basically the Sambazon <a HREF="http://www.sambazon.com/shop2/p-37-pure-acai.aspx" REL="nofollow">smoothie packs</a> (if never unfrozen) and <a HREF="http://www.sambazon.com/shop2/p-40-pure-aa-power-scoop.aspx" REL="nofollow">freeze-dried versions</a> are the only ones I would trust. This company has taken steps to ensure that the açaí is high-quality, organic, and free-trade...I have yet to see another brands even come close. Btw, I do not recommend the Sambazon <a HREF="http://www.sambazon.com/shop2/c-8-aa-smoothies.aspx" REL="nofollow">smoothies</a>...they've lost their nutritional value.<br/><br/>@Darya<br/><br/>By solid do you mean still in the honeycomb? The solid honey (still in combs) is just another way of consuming honey. Some people like to chew the waxy comb with the honey inside and spit out (or swallow) the wax. It kind of reminds me of those weird wax bottle candies I used to see at 7-11 as a kid. Local raw honey is the best way to go, by far...so maybe find a local beekeeper and give it another shot, like drizzle a small amount on your dorset in the morning.<br/><br/>Personally I list raw honey slightly above the "dessert" level, and way above processed sugar...but processed honey, not so much.<br/><br/>How you roll...hahaha. Like Jack Black kicking a dog off a bridge...<br/><br/>@Anonymous (the one not keen on Jessica Alba)<br/><br/>Thanks for sharing all the great information! I think we've had a lot of very similar experiences regarding raw honey/allergies and cancer/diet. I appreciate you contributions in this thread, maybe you should register to avoid any confusion with other anonymous posters? @All

Wow, who would have thought “honey” would have stirred the pot?!

Most açaí products are crap, but there are a few that take precautions to ensure the nutritional level of the palm fruit is maintained. Basically the Sambazon smoothie packs (if never unfrozen) and freeze-dried versions are the only ones I would trust. This company has taken steps to ensure that the açaí is high-quality, organic, and free-trade…I have yet to see another brands even come close. Btw, I do not recommend the Sambazon smoothies…they’ve lost their nutritional value.

@Darya

By solid do you mean still in the honeycomb? The solid honey (still in combs) is just another way of consuming honey. Some people like to chew the waxy comb with the honey inside and spit out (or swallow) the wax. It kind of reminds me of those weird wax bottle candies I used to see at 7-11 as a kid. Local raw honey is the best way to go, by far…so maybe find a local beekeeper and give it another shot, like drizzle a small amount on your dorset in the morning.

Personally I list raw honey slightly above the “dessert” level, and way above processed sugar…but processed honey, not so much.

How you roll…hahaha. Like Jack Black kicking a dog off a bridge…

@Anonymous (the one not keen on Jessica Alba)

Thanks for sharing all the great information! I think we’ve had a lot of very similar experiences regarding raw honey/allergies and cancer/diet. I appreciate you contributions in this thread, maybe you should register to avoid any confusion with other anonymous posters?

]]> By: Michelle http://summertomato.com/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1075 Michelle Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:29:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/#comment-1075 Whoa, lots of debate! All I wanted to say is nice job trying something new and they can't all be winners! Whoa, lots of debate! All I wanted to say is nice job trying something new and they can’t all be winners!

]]> By: Anonymous http://summertomato.com/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1074 Anonymous Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:48:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/#comment-1074 Anon: this clearly demonstrates that just as one needs to be discerning about other food sources (such as meat, milk, vegetables), the same applies to honey. some honey is processed, and some beekeepers encourage quantity over quality. This symposium on the health benefits of honey demonstrates that the majority of these benefits do not occur when bees are fed a sucrose diet http://www.prohoneyandhealth.com/UserFiles/Image/Symposium%20Report.pdf<br/>(keep in mind when reading the report that these findings were produced for the honey industry so obviously no reports that don't support certain health factors were included). The person I buy my honey from moves his bees around so that they always have enough access to natural sources of food.<br/>Darya: my understanding is that it's a combination of age, temperature at which it's been stored, and the diet of the bees. Also, some honey is strained to eliminate wax; etc, and other honey is not - I've heard different arguments that the health benefits are the same, and that each is healthier than the other - I haven't done enough research on my own to make a judgement (I had no idea I would be the voice for honey!) Hope you enjoyed your honey :) Anon: this clearly demonstrates that just as one needs to be discerning about other food sources (such as meat, milk, vegetables), the same applies to honey. some honey is processed, and some beekeepers encourage quantity over quality. This symposium on the health benefits of honey demonstrates that the majority of these benefits do not occur when bees are fed a sucrose diet http://www.prohoneyandhealth.com/UserFiles/Image/Symposium%20Report.pdf
(keep in mind when reading the report that these findings were produced for the honey industry so obviously no reports that don’t support certain health factors were included). The person I buy my honey from moves his bees around so that they always have enough access to natural sources of food.
Darya: my understanding is that it’s a combination of age, temperature at which it’s been stored, and the diet of the bees. Also, some honey is strained to eliminate wax; etc, and other honey is not – I’ve heard different arguments that the health benefits are the same, and that each is healthier than the other – I haven’t done enough research on my own to make a judgement (I had no idea I would be the voice for honey!) Hope you enjoyed your honey :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://summertomato.com/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1071 Anonymous Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:46:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/#comment-1071 From Wikipedia:<br/>"...Beekeepers encourage overproduction of honey within the hive so that the excess can be taken without endangering the bees. When sources of food for the bees are short, beekeepers may have to give the bees supplementary nutrition. Supplementary nutrition usually comes in the form of sugar (sucrose) mixed with water at proper ratios..."<br/>Awesome! Like unto feeding corn to cattle, beekeepers actually feed sugar to bees so they can make honey. Awesome, and yet so sad. From Wikipedia:
“…Beekeepers encourage overproduction of honey within the hive so that the excess can be taken without endangering the bees. When sources of food for the bees are short, beekeepers may have to give the bees supplementary nutrition. Supplementary nutrition usually comes in the form of sugar (sucrose) mixed with water at proper ratios…”
Awesome! Like unto feeding corn to cattle, beekeepers actually feed sugar to bees so they can make honey. Awesome, and yet so sad.

]]> By: Darya Pino http://summertomato.com/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1070 Darya Pino Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:47:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/#comment-1070 <b>@Anon<br/><br/>I am having some raw honey on Acme bread for dessert tonight in your honor. It's from Vermont though....<br/><br/>Question for you: Why is some raw honey solid and other kinds liquid. I learned this when shopping for this recipe. I went with the more expensive solid one ($10 vs $4) because that is how I roll. But it was an uninformed decision (which is not usually how I roll ;)<br/><br/></b> @Anon

I am having some raw honey on Acme bread for dessert tonight in your honor. It’s from Vermont though….

Question for you: Why is some raw honey solid and other kinds liquid. I learned this when shopping for this recipe. I went with the more expensive solid one ($10 vs $4) because that is how I roll. But it was an uninformed decision (which is not usually how I roll ;)

]]> By: Greg http://summertomato.com/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1069 Greg Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:41:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/fail-the-wild-radish-rapini-challenge/#comment-1069 Interesting conversation; im inclined to side with choosing honey over sugar; honey just seems more natural, and eating white granulated table sugar makes me feel like a tool of industrial agriculture. Thanks Anon for standing up for us and yourself.... Interesting conversation; im inclined to side with choosing honey over sugar; honey just seems more natural, and eating white granulated table sugar makes me feel like a tool of industrial agriculture. Thanks Anon for standing up for us and yourself….

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