Comments on: Cancer and Diet http://summertomato.com/cancer-and-diet/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=cancer-and-diet Healthy Eating Tips for Foodies Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:47:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Darya Pino http://summertomato.com/cancer-and-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-930 Darya Pino Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:22:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/cancer-and-diet/#comment-930 <b>@Karin<br/><br/>I barely have time, but I try! Thanks for the support, I'm glad you enjoy my site.<br/><br/>Good question about mixing greens. Yes, technically it might be slightly healthier to have more different kinds in one meal, but if you are eating them all in the same week it is just as good. <br/><br/>From a culinary perspective, spinach is a very delicate green while collards are very hearty. I wouldn't recommend mixing those specifically. Kale or chard would be a better option, but you would have to work with a more complex flavor profile that might not taste as good. Worth an experiment though!<br/><br/>-----<br/>@Matt<br/><br/>I also find it difficult sometimes to understand the fatalistic attitude so many people have toward health. From talking to people though, I think a lot of it stems from the confusion and misinformation that gets filtered to the public about health. <br/><br/>Also, because fresh fruits and vegetables are old-fashioned and "health" food is usually thought of as powders and bars, it has a reputation for being bad tasting. To me this is the biggest irony of all. If I had to choose between my diet and the typical Western diet on taste alone, I would choose mine in a heartbeat (and probably thousands more!). <br/><br/>The myths surrounding of the value and taste of healthy foods are what I'm trying to dispel here.<br/><br/>-----<br/>@Anon<br/><br/>It's so true. But no wonder we didn't believe them, think about all the garbage health messages we got in school:<br/><br/>-four food groups<br/>-milk does a body good<br/>-eat oil sparingly <br/>-margarine is better than butter<br/><br/>*sigh*<br/><br/>-----<br/>@Greg<br/><br/>You would be blown away if you saw the data on how much more effective food is than "modern medicine" for both preventing and curing most of our chronic diseases. Check out the health books on my side bar. <br/><br/>It is hard for healthy people to comprehend how horrible it is to have debilitating disease for 1, 5, 10 years. You cannot enjoy your favorite activities, you are a burden on your loved ones, your mind is confused and basic functions are difficult. Medicine can do nothing about these things, but food can keep you sprightly into your 80s and 90s.<br/><br/>-----<br/>@Lee <br/><br/>Great point! I think we are already there with the science, but the public message is lagging behind. I mostly blame agribusiness, but there are many other factors. Let's keep spreading the word!<br/><br/>(great blog btw!)<br/><br/>-----<br/>@Matt<br/><br/>Excellent move on the CSAs! At least some of them stuck with it. Keep nudging ;)<br/><br/></b> @Karin

I barely have time, but I try! Thanks for the support, I’m glad you enjoy my site.

Good question about mixing greens. Yes, technically it might be slightly healthier to have more different kinds in one meal, but if you are eating them all in the same week it is just as good.

From a culinary perspective, spinach is a very delicate green while collards are very hearty. I wouldn’t recommend mixing those specifically. Kale or chard would be a better option, but you would have to work with a more complex flavor profile that might not taste as good. Worth an experiment though!

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@Matt

I also find it difficult sometimes to understand the fatalistic attitude so many people have toward health. From talking to people though, I think a lot of it stems from the confusion and misinformation that gets filtered to the public about health.

Also, because fresh fruits and vegetables are old-fashioned and “health” food is usually thought of as powders and bars, it has a reputation for being bad tasting. To me this is the biggest irony of all. If I had to choose between my diet and the typical Western diet on taste alone, I would choose mine in a heartbeat (and probably thousands more!).

The myths surrounding of the value and taste of healthy foods are what I’m trying to dispel here.

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@Anon

It’s so true. But no wonder we didn’t believe them, think about all the garbage health messages we got in school:

-four food groups
-milk does a body good
-eat oil sparingly
-margarine is better than butter

*sigh*

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@Greg

You would be blown away if you saw the data on how much more effective food is than “modern medicine” for both preventing and curing most of our chronic diseases. Check out the health books on my side bar.

It is hard for healthy people to comprehend how horrible it is to have debilitating disease for 1, 5, 10 years. You cannot enjoy your favorite activities, you are a burden on your loved ones, your mind is confused and basic functions are difficult. Medicine can do nothing about these things, but food can keep you sprightly into your 80s and 90s.

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@Lee

Great point! I think we are already there with the science, but the public message is lagging behind. I mostly blame agribusiness, but there are many other factors. Let’s keep spreading the word!

(great blog btw!)

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@Matt

Excellent move on the CSAs! At least some of them stuck with it. Keep nudging ;)

]]> By: Matt Shook http://summertomato.com/cancer-and-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-928 Matt Shook Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:38:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/cancer-and-diet/#comment-928 @Greg<br/><br/>I don't believe "modern" medicine will do away with cancer and heart disease. I believe these diseases are both products of industrial civilization, so I also find it a bit funny that industrial medicine would hold the answers to the very problems it helped create. The overuse of antibiotics is also creating some awfully powerful adaptive germs out there. Western medicine is excellent at immediate life-saving procedures, but as far and long-term care...not so much.<br/><br/>@Lee<br/><br/>Very intriguing observations...I have noticed the same. People are really finding themselves gently being pushed into the direction of localism...and they're finding out "hey, this ain't so bad!"<br/><br/>"Why do we wait until a bad diagnosis to start eating in a healthy manner?"<br/><br/>Totally agree! I really admire your goal to be "fit by fifty"...I think that is really awesome and wish you all the best. I could only dream my parents would adopt the same positive attitude. This past holiday season we gave my parents, parents-in-law, and brother-in-law subscriptions to local CSAs. My in-laws really loved it and are going to continue it year-round. My little bro-in-law is studying at Cal Berkeley...he loved the idea and is enjoying the fresh fruits and veggies with his roomies. After two months of fresh local produce my parents went back to their highly processed unhealthy meals...much to my chagrin. =/ @Greg

I don’t believe “modern” medicine will do away with cancer and heart disease. I believe these diseases are both products of industrial civilization, so I also find it a bit funny that industrial medicine would hold the answers to the very problems it helped create. The overuse of antibiotics is also creating some awfully powerful adaptive germs out there. Western medicine is excellent at immediate life-saving procedures, but as far and long-term care…not so much.

@Lee

Very intriguing observations…I have noticed the same. People are really finding themselves gently being pushed into the direction of localism…and they’re finding out “hey, this ain’t so bad!”

“Why do we wait until a bad diagnosis to start eating in a healthy manner?”

Totally agree! I really admire your goal to be “fit by fifty”…I think that is really awesome and wish you all the best. I could only dream my parents would adopt the same positive attitude. This past holiday season we gave my parents, parents-in-law, and brother-in-law subscriptions to local CSAs. My in-laws really loved it and are going to continue it year-round. My little bro-in-law is studying at Cal Berkeley…he loved the idea and is enjoying the fresh fruits and veggies with his roomies. After two months of fresh local produce my parents went back to their highly processed unhealthy meals…much to my chagrin. =/

]]> By: Lee http://summertomato.com/cancer-and-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-926 Lee Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:25:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/cancer-and-diet/#comment-926 Yes, fear of cancer does influence choices I make with regard to my diet.<br/><br/>I see a point in the future where we put it all together: a diet of locally grown, fresh whole foods. Right now people are getting to this realization from differnet directions: concern for the environment; weight loss & control; anti-aging; anti-inflammatory; cancer, diabetes & heart disease prevention & treatment.<br/><br/>Why do we wait until a bad diagnosis to start eating in a healthy manner? Yes, fear of cancer does influence choices I make with regard to my diet.

I see a point in the future where we put it all together: a diet of locally grown, fresh whole foods. Right now people are getting to this realization from differnet directions: concern for the environment; weight loss & control; anti-aging; anti-inflammatory; cancer, diabetes & heart disease prevention & treatment.

Why do we wait until a bad diagnosis to start eating in a healthy manner?

]]> By: Greg http://summertomato.com/cancer-and-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-925 Greg Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:09:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/cancer-and-diet/#comment-925 Interesting comments, but does anyone else agree that its only a matter of time before modern medicine does away with cancer and heart disease? I mean, people already get heart bypass surgery and cancer surgery, so doctor's ability to treat this stuff is only gonna get better- I wonder if that influences people about whether they worry about cancer or not.... Interesting comments, but does anyone else agree that its only a matter of time before modern medicine does away with cancer and heart disease? I mean, people already get heart bypass surgery and cancer surgery, so doctor’s ability to treat this stuff is only gonna get better- I wonder if that influences people about whether they worry about cancer or not….

]]> By: Matt Shook http://summertomato.com/cancer-and-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-913 Matt Shook Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:18:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/cancer-and-diet/#comment-913 @Anonymous<br/><br/>Exactly! I had the same experience growing up...it took me nearly 24 years to finally realize the true wisdom of that saying...so simple, yet so true.<br/><br/>David Wolfe can be a little out there at times, but I think he <a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MugUX9IlDZs" REL="nofollow">totally agrees with us.</a> ;) @Anonymous

Exactly! I had the same experience growing up…it took me nearly 24 years to finally realize the true wisdom of that saying…so simple, yet so true.

David Wolfe can be a little out there at times, but I think he totally agrees with us. ;)

]]> By: Anonymous http://summertomato.com/cancer-and-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-911 Anonymous Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:41:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/cancer-and-diet/#comment-911 @Matt<br/>Funny how I always heard as a child "you are what you eat" and I took it as a ridiculous statement that obviously wasn't true, and now I feel like it is more true than ever, in a more profound way...... @Matt
Funny how I always heard as a child “you are what you eat” and I took it as a ridiculous statement that obviously wasn’t true, and now I feel like it is more true than ever, in a more profound way……

]]> By: Matt Shook http://summertomato.com/cancer-and-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-909 Matt Shook Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:44:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/cancer-and-diet/#comment-909 There are so many things in this world that I have absolutely no control over...fortunately, the option to choose what I wish to consume each day isn't one of them.<br/><br/>I wouldn't say that my eating habits were designed in fear of getting cancer...but it's not like I'm going to avoid eating foods that could be helpful in preventing cancer growth. I would say I eat healthy because I've always loved fruits and vegetables, I strongly believe that "I am what I eat", and because I physically feel stronger and more energetic. Reading about the benefits of a healthy (ie. herbivore) diet doesn't hurt either...it's more like a slap on the back to keep up the good work.<br/><br/>I believe, as Darya touched on above, adopting healthy eating (and exercising) habits now can really pay off in the future...I am at the point now that I don't know why anyone would continue to eat poorly. I think depression, ignorance, and apathy only go so far...no one is forcing people to eat poorly except themselves. There are so many things in this world that I have absolutely no control over…fortunately, the option to choose what I wish to consume each day isn’t one of them.

I wouldn’t say that my eating habits were designed in fear of getting cancer…but it’s not like I’m going to avoid eating foods that could be helpful in preventing cancer growth. I would say I eat healthy because I’ve always loved fruits and vegetables, I strongly believe that “I am what I eat”, and because I physically feel stronger and more energetic. Reading about the benefits of a healthy (ie. herbivore) diet doesn’t hurt either…it’s more like a slap on the back to keep up the good work.

I believe, as Darya touched on above, adopting healthy eating (and exercising) habits now can really pay off in the future…I am at the point now that I don’t know why anyone would continue to eat poorly. I think depression, ignorance, and apathy only go so far…no one is forcing people to eat poorly except themselves.

]]> By: Karin http://summertomato.com/cancer-and-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-903 Karin Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:25:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/cancer-and-diet/#comment-903 I love reading your blog, Darya- thanks so much, I don't know how you find time for it.<br/>I was enjoying a lovely meal of leaks and <a HREF="http://summertomato.blogspot.com/2009/01/farmers-market-update-amnesia_31.html" REL="nofollow">collard greens</a> and was thinking about this cancer article, and it got me wondering. Should I have mixed in some spinach or something with these greens? I know variety is always better, but do you think it would have any measurable affect on cancer?<br/>The collard greens were awesome by the way!! I love reading your blog, Darya- thanks so much, I don’t know how you find time for it.
I was enjoying a lovely meal of leaks and collard greens and was thinking about this cancer article, and it got me wondering. Should I have mixed in some spinach or something with these greens? I know variety is always better, but do you think it would have any measurable affect on cancer?
The collard greens were awesome by the way!!

]]> By: Darya Pino http://summertomato.com/cancer-and-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-901 Darya Pino Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:30:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/cancer-and-diet/#comment-901 <b>@Mike<br/><br/>The problem with your logic is that the same dietary pattern causes heart disease, diabetes, neurodegenerative diseases and more cancer than just prostate or colorectal cancer. The data is unambiguous. The medical costs coupled with the years of discomfort (if you're lucky!) are something serious to consider.<br/><br/></b> @Mike

The problem with your logic is that the same dietary pattern causes heart disease, diabetes, neurodegenerative diseases and more cancer than just prostate or colorectal cancer. The data is unambiguous. The medical costs coupled with the years of discomfort (if you’re lucky!) are something serious to consider.

]]> By: Mike http://summertomato.com/cancer-and-diet/comment-page-1/#comment-900 Mike Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:22:00 +0000 http://summertomato.com/uncategorized/cancer-and-diet/#comment-900 One way to look at this, for us guys, it this: just accept getting prostate cancer because everyones gonna get it, and it has good treatment results; don't have to worry about breast, smoking is a no-brainer and no-one should be smoking anyways so don't have to worry about lung, then we just start up with fearing colon cancer, and 48 people outta 100,000 isn't that many- especially when you take into account all the other bad things out there that could happen to you. This other website says there is a 1/100 change in dying in a car accident. <br/>http://www.livescience.com/environment/050106_odds_of_dying.html#table One way to look at this, for us guys, it this: just accept getting prostate cancer because everyones gonna get it, and it has good treatment results; don’t have to worry about breast, smoking is a no-brainer and no-one should be smoking anyways so don’t have to worry about lung, then we just start up with fearing colon cancer, and 48 people outta 100,000 isn’t that many- especially when you take into account all the other bad things out there that could happen to you. This other website says there is a 1/100 change in dying in a car accident.
http://www.livescience.com/environment/050106_odds_of_dying.html#table

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